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Los Angeles Hoo

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My understanding...


There is no possibility of a re-vote, as the Congress sets the date of the election, and that date has passed.

The angle they will work is the following:

1) Multiple and significant election laws were broken by various state/local officials, and, as a direct result, vote tallies cannot be trusted. Hence, elections are illegal/invalid, period.

2) While they will attempt to show some evidence of fraud/error in actual ballots (and already have via affidavit), that burden does not necessarily fall on them. If the election is invalid on its face, then proven fraud/error is arguably irrelevant from a legal perspective. It would be up to the election officials who broke the law to try to prove there was no fraud, but proving a negative is obviously difficult. I think the focus will be on the fraud involved in the (alleged) lawbreaking, not the specific incidences of fraudulent votes, which would be an impossibly high standard, especially when the former occurred.

3) If the election (I'm talking state elections here, not the entire country) is invalid, then it would fall to the state legislatures to approve the slate of electors for a given state. In the states in question, the legislatures are Republican, so you can see where that's going to go. Additionally, if elections are invalid or perceived to be invalid, then Republican Secretaries of State where they exist (Georgia?) may just refuse to certify the election, thereby throwing it to the legislatures to sort out.

I'm not saying any of the above is true, sufficient or desirable -- in fact, I think it will fail. I'm just saying that I think this is the thrust of the Rep efforts. I think it is highly, highly likely that at least one of these cases will at least get appealed to the Supreme Court at some point, with PA being the most obvious candidate.

Chance of mass riots/civil war is about 80% if Trump prevails and 20% if he doesn't, IMO.




[Post edited by Los Angeles Hoo at 11/09/2020 1:49PM]

(In response to this post by Oregon Hoo)

Posted: 11/09/2020 at 1:42PM



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